What proceeds can only be viewed as about the most convoluted miniature seminar that there has ever been. Read with caution.
[stolide] I think it is about time we started...
[lefttooth] agreed
[Atown305] small class but ok
[lefttooth] all 3 of us.
[stolide] This will decidedly be shorter than expected as such...
[Atown305] actually i might have to go
[stolide] Luckily I have amassed a crowed.
[stolide]
[stolide] Two then.
[Atown305]
[stolide] So,
[stolide] Take a vote, which do you want me to cover first,
[Atown305] my mom gets mad when i talk to stranger online...
[stolide] the creation of true sapience and sentience or reality manipulation.
[Atown305] uhm..
[Atown305] ill go with anything
[stolide] Lefty?
[lefttooth] reality manip.
[stolide] Ok
[Atown305] because im just learning this stuff and most of what i need to learn are the very basics
[stolide] Reality manipulation is manipulation of subtle energy by altering the rules by which the energy operates, instead of altering what a specific piece of energy does.
[stolide] Reality manipulation is not typically done on it's own.
[stolide] It works well when combined with other things, particularly sigils and tech.
[stolide] Any questions so far?
[Atown305] sigils?
[stolide] A symbol that is charged with energy so that it does something
[stolide] You could call the Cross a sigil.
[Atown305] oh
[Atown305] please continue
[stolide] Lefty?
[lefttooth] wait whats tech!?!?!?!? AHHHHH!
[lefttooth] just kidding.
[stolide]
[lefttooth] go ahead
[Atown305] ..............
[stolide] At that note
[stolide]
omnimancy.com/ [stolide] Information on tech is there.
[lefttooth] been there. done that.
[stolide] Atown hasn't
[stolide]
[lefttooth] yupppppp
[stolide] So, someone give me an example of something they would want done with reality manipulation.
[Atown305] yup i havnt done pretty much anything u might say
[stolide] Simple things will be easier to learn from.
[stolide] Heh, well this is a higher level lecture than I've ever heard of but meh...
[stolide] (This is why I prefer to operate out of msn and not seminars.
[lefttooth] smaller one too
[Atown305] im lost
[lefttooth] haha
[stolide] I'll post a log
[Atown305] y dont u make a msn group?
[stolide] You can come back to it later
[stolide] I'll mess with that once I am done with this...
[Atown305] ok teacher
[lefttooth] example of rm: making psi naturally denser?
[stolide] No need for such formalities.
[stolide] Well, that is done by focussing on something
[stolide] But a way to make an existing construct denser with rm would go something like this.
[stolide] If you make a psiball
[stolide] you can change the rules of the energy that enters the area such that it is attracted to any spheres
[stolide] You aren't programming the psiball
[stolide] you aren't focussing on the psiball
[stolide] it is getting denser due to the rules that it operates under.
[stolide] Someone give me a mildly more complex example.
[Atown305] interesting...
[stolide] I'll mix in a sigil for the heck of it this time.
[Atown305] i half understand what ur talking about
[stolide] Heh
[Atown305] ima noobie, what can i say
[stolide] You can come back to the log later, and I'm always available on msn.
[Atown305] yea id probably better be getting back to my skool work
[Atown305] bye
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[lefttooth] hi.
[lefttooth] weeeelllllllllll this is a bit of a failure.
[stolide] Pretty much...
[lefttooth] we tried. :\
[stolide] Didn't I indicate my doubts about this earlier, or do I just feel like saying "I told you so?"
[lefttooth] you could just say I told you so.
[stolide] I told you so.
[stolide]
[stolide]
[lefttooth] hahah. well. . . what now?
[stolide] I can continue if you want, or I can go play armored core 4...
[lefttooth] go play armored core 4. tis fine
[lefttooth]
[stolide] Or listen to my dad discus DnD for hours...
[stolide]
[lefttooth] hahaha
[stolide] I honestly have no preference
[lefttooth] me neither.
[stolide] I have figured out the mechanic by which sapience is generated in cosntructs that are external to you.
[lefttooth] do tell
[stolide] As in, a construct whose intelligence is not part of yours.
[stolide] Well
[stolide] There are pre-existing archetypes of many things, personalities included.
[stolide] You can use these, overlay them into your construct, to have it become an extension of the archetype rather than you.
[stolide] One can also created an isolated astral archetype of their own design
[stolide] thus allowing for sapience to whatever ends one desires.
[stolide] Normally
[stolide] When one uses direct intent or conceptualization to create sapience
[stolide] An archetype if created in their own mind, similar to an anima (Look up Carl Jung if you have the time)
[stolide] Like a personification of something.
[stolide] With me so far?
[lefttooth] yeah
[stolide] Any questions?
[lefttooth] nope
[stolide] So, then the important, or rather less known thing, is how one goes about the creation of an isolated astral archetype
[stolide] Why don't you tell me how you think the best way would be to construct one?
[lefttooth] shoot. . . umm. . . simply will it into existence
[lefttooth]
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[lefttooth] ok. one more shot.
[Atown305] sorry to bother but lefty u have a aim or msn?
[lefttooth] yeahyeah
[stolide] [lefttooth] hahah. well. . . what now? [stolide] I can continue if you want, or I can go play armored core 4... [lefttooth] go play armored core 4. tis fine [lefttooth] [stolide] Or listen to my dad discus DnD for hours... [stolide] [lefttooth[stolide] meh
[stolide] stolide] I have figured out the mechanic by which sapience is generated in cosntructs that are external to you. [lefttooth] do tell [stolide] As in, a construct whose intelligence is not part of yours. [stolide] Well [stolide] There are pre-existing arche
[stolide] [stolide] There are pre-existing archetypes of many things, personalities included. [stolide] You can use these, overlay them into your construct, to have it become an extension of the archetype rather than you. [stolide] One can also created an isolated
[stolide] [stolide] One can also created an isolated astral archetype of their own design [stolide] thus allowing for sapience to whatever ends one desires. [stolide] Normally [stolide] When one uses direct intent or conceptualization to create sapience [stolide] A
[stolide] stolide] An archetype if created in their own mind, similar to an anima (Look up Carl Jung if you have the time) [stolide] Like a personification of something.
[Atown305] psi gets very complex...
[stolide] Any questions?
[lefttooth] or very simple. hmm.
[lefttooth] dont will it into existence, but will its structure (the basis by which it is created) into existence.
[stolide] Would you like me to define sapience and sentience for you atown?
[Atown305] yes please!
[stolide] Let me find out if he has any questions, and then we can continue
[Atown305] or u can tell me later
[stolide] Sentience wuold be like AI in video games, it mimics intelligence by a set of rules it must follow
[stolide] It has set method for determing what to do
[stolide] If A then do B.
[stolide] Got that?
[Atown305] nt really
[stolide] Let me give a better example
[stolide] You know how computers play chess?
[stolide] They follow rules of what to do based on what has happened
[Atown305] oh yea
[stolide] That's sentience
[Atown305] like a programmed response?
[stolide] Exactly
[Atown305] i got u
[stolide] Sapience is self awarenss, the type of intelligence a human has.
[stolide] This can't be done with a set of rules really.
[Atown305] and this can be increased?
[stolide] So when it comes to constructs,
[stolide] You have to have it be an extension of something that alread exists, well at least with what I know.
[stolide] What do you mean?
[stolide] brb
[Atown305] nvm
[Atown305] i see now though, u can put sapience in a construct so it do a certain job at a certain time like to dissapate when u get to a certain place
[lefttooth] do you mean sentience?
[Atown305] uhm yea... i guess
[Atown305] i cant speel
[Atown305] spell
[lefttooth] weel there is sentience and sapeince.
[Atown305] ooh
[Atown305] explain the difference
[Atown305] sentience is the prgrammed responce/
[Atown305] ?
[lefttooth] yes.
[Atown305] ok
[Atown305] he didnt get to explaining the other one then
[Atown305] i wish this chat could be on some sort of messenger via aim or msn or gtalk or icq.. etc
[Atown305] so i could get these on mi phone
[Atown305] so lefty where u from
[lefttooth] spokane
[Atown305] ??
[Atown305] country
[lefttooth] usa. washington
[Atown305] oh
[Atown305] coo
[Atown305] im from florida
[Atown305] ahhhh i gtg again
[Atown305] tell stoolide thanks again for the website
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[lefttooth] hey stolide i gotta roll. ill catch ya later.
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[Atown305] oh lefty left...
[stolide] Yup
[Atown305] so sentience is the programmed action and sepience is?
[stolide] Sapience literally means wisdom
[stolide] It is when something has enough intelligent to be self aware
[stolide] It actually thinks the way a person does.
[Atown305] u can prgram this!?!
[stolide] Kind of
[Atown305] wow!
[stolide] You can extend the sapience of something into a construct
[Atown305] im blown away
[stolide] Normally, it is usually a part of your own mind.
[stolide] You know how you can have a perosnification of something in your mind, like knowing what your mother would say about something?
[stolide] You can take that archetype and apply it to a construct
[stolide] The construct then acts as that archetype would.
[Atown305] archtype?
[Atown305] sorry
[stolide] It is just a term for an idea
[Atown305] oh
[stolide] kind of...
[stolide] There are other connotations though.
[stolide] An archetype in this sense, is similar to a stereotype.
[Atown305] so with practice a construct can have a routinly or daily program
[Atown305] oh
[stolide] Yes
[Atown305] thats cool
[stolide] You just program it to do the task every day.
[Atown305] oh u cant make it program itself
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